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Moi aussi je suis avec telus et OUI c'est possible de mettre ses propre sonneries en utilisant bitpim, moi aussi j`ai les erreurs d'exception mais il faut passer par le file system, regarder ce lien il est en anglais mais vers la fin de la page il y a un tutorial avec des photo.
Désolé Voilà le lien
https://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1134422-1.html
https://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1134422-1.html
Roud9
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dimanche 17 février 2008
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6 mars 2008 à 04:46
6 mars 2008 à 04:46
salut,
merci pour le lien j'avais le même problème et j'ai réussi à mettre des sonneries mais a tu la même mainp' mais pour les jeux?
merci pour le lien j'avais le même problème et j'ai réussi à mettre des sonneries mais a tu la même mainp' mais pour les jeux?
hey hey moi aussi! je cherche la solution depuis plusieurs jours, si je la trouve je vous met au courrant. Faites de même svp
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Alors si je suis avec Telus je ne peux pas personnaliser mon cell avec des sonneries etc?
C'est vraiment nul ça. Moi qui a commandé un fil USB parce que les LG8500 de Telus ne peuvent pas transférer de fichier avec bluetooth. Avec tous ses inconvénient je regret presque mon achat. :s
C'est vraiment nul ça. Moi qui a commandé un fil USB parce que les LG8500 de Telus ne peuvent pas transférer de fichier avec bluetooth. Avec tous ses inconvénient je regret presque mon achat. :s
Désoler mais je ne vois pas de lien Debiz. :s
PS: J'ai deja des musiques et sons sur ma carte SD, est-ce que c'est possible de les utiliser comme sonneries ? Parceque dans sonneries il n'y a que "Téléchargé" et "Préinstallé". Je ne peux mas définir une musique ou un son comme sonnerie.
PS: J'ai deja des musiques et sons sur ma carte SD, est-ce que c'est possible de les utiliser comme sonneries ? Parceque dans sonneries il n'y a que "Téléchargé" et "Préinstallé". Je ne peux mas définir une musique ou un son comme sonnerie.
C'est dommage qu'il faut utiliser Bitpim. Pour ma part j'utilise ma carte MicroSD pour transferer les photos et musiques, donc pas de sollution possible pour moi ? Parce que sur le forum on ne parle que comment transferer avec le PC.
PS: Dans le manuel du LG8500 on précise que Telus a bloqué le transfer de donnés par Bluetooth ( dans la page Bluetooth ), pourquoi sur le forum ils utilisent bluetooth alors qu'il est mentionné que Telus à bloqué cette option pour le 8500.
PS: Dans le manuel du LG8500 on précise que Telus a bloqué le transfer de donnés par Bluetooth ( dans la page Bluetooth ), pourquoi sur le forum ils utilisent bluetooth alors qu'il est mentionné que Telus à bloqué cette option pour le 8500.
j'ai récupéré le LG 8500 TELUS qui vien du canada alor que je vie en France. du coup il n'a pas de réseau, et je croi qu'il n'a pas besoin de carte sim est-ce normal ???? répondez vite svp. merci
o0o-MARYD00G-o0o
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samedi 1 mars 2008
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1 mars 2008 à 01:59
1 mars 2008 à 01:59
Ya Tu Kkun qui peut me dire exactement ou aller pour pouvoir telecharger des sonneries gratuitement pour mon cell qui est Telus bin sur??????????
J ' AI ACHETÉ MON CELLULAIRE HIER .. donc je suis avec Bell mobilité & quand j ' essaye de connecter mon cellulaire ( LG chocolate ) les pilotes se téléchargent jusqu'a ce qu'il arrive a un pilote nommé inconnu .. apres ça aucun programme ne le détecte ( bitpim , programme de bell , ni le disque amovible ) .. Je ne sais pas quoi faire pour que ca fonctionne & je veux tout simplement mettre de la musique sur mon cell =( ! que faire ?!?! repondez moi au plus vite svp !
jai le meme problem et je suis avec telus ses de la vrai merde surtout que je suis a la carte il me sert pas a grand-chose se tel alors:(
Bonjour a tous!
J'ai le même problème que Breezer. J'ai installé le kit de telus pour le fil USB. Lorsque je parts BITPIM ca me dit qu'il voit un LG VX8100 connecté au COM 6.... VX8600 ou VX8100 ca doit etre pareil .... La n'est pas le problème....
Lorsque je vais dans le "browser" de bitpim (a gauche dans l'écran) je ne vois pas le "filesystem". J,ai Bitpim qui mei donne accès à PHONE et LOG.
Dans PHONE j'ai phonebook, media, calendar, memo, todo, sms, call history, playlist et t9 editor. je ne vois pas de filesystem.
Donc la je suis carrément perdu! Je suis allé voir l'explication en anglais et même si je ne suis pas bilingue j'ai compris comment installer et aller chercher les informations. Mais filesystem n'est pas la!
Voici les infos qui s'affiche lorsque je fais un GET info sur le cellulaire....
BitPim version: 1.0.6.20080726-Test
An unexpected exception has occurred.
Please see the help for details on what to do.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui.pyo", line 284, in run
File "gui.pyo", line 159, in __call__
File "gui.pyo", line 1884, in getdata
File "gui.pyo", line 1878, in getfundamentals
File "phones\com_lgvx4400.pyo", line 98, in getfundamentals
File "phones\com_lgvx8100.pyo", line 152, in getgroups
File "phones\p_lgvx8100.pyo", line 445, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 1433, in readfrombuffer
File "phones\p_lgvx8100.pyo", line 367, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 608, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 1568, in getnextbytes
IndexError: Trying to read 23 bytes starting at 184 which will go beyond end of 186 byte buffer
Variables by last 8 frames, innermost last
Frame getfundamentals in gui.pyo at line 1878
self = <WorkerThread(BitPim helper, started daemon)>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': '71f446264ce869bd7be089071be2908b2adafa9e'}
Frame getfundamentals in phones\com_lgvx4400.pyo at line 98
self = <phones.com_lgvx8100.Phone object at 0x02C051F0>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': '71f446264ce869bd7be089071be2908b2adafa9e'}
Frame getgroups in phones\com_lgvx8100.pyo at line 152
self = <phones.com_lgvx8100.Phone object at 0x02C051F0>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': '71f446264ce869bd7be089071be2908b2adafa9e'}
g = <phones.p_lgvx8100.pbgroups object at 0x03A84C30>
Frame readfrombuffer in phones\p_lgvx8100.pyo at line 445
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
autolog = True
logtitle = 'Groups read'
self = <phones.p_lgvx8100.pbgroups object at 0x03A84C30>
Frame readfrombuffer in prototypes.pyo at line 1433
x = <phones.p_lgvx8100.pbgroup object at 0x04C98A10>
self = <prototypes.LIST object at 0x03023550>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
Frame readfrombuffer in phones\p_lgvx8100.pyo at line 367
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
autolog = True
logtitle = '<read data>'
self = <phones.p_lgvx8100.pbgroup object at 0x04C98A10>
Frame readfrombuffer in prototypes.pyo at line 608
_value = ''
self = <prototypes.USTRING object at 0x04C98E30>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
flush = 0
Frame getnextbytes in prototypes.pyo at line 1568
self = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
howmany = 23
Lorsque je regarde les infos affichés pour les ports de communication voici ce que j'ai pour les ports qu'il voit
BitPim port listing - Sat Aug 02 16:02:49 2008
Port de communication (COM1) COM1
This port is available and can be selected.
Property Value Description
active True Your operating system shows this driver and port is correctly configured and a device attached
available True It was possible to open this port
class serial This is a serial connection
description Port de communication (COM1)
driverdate 2001-7-1
driverdescription Port de communication
driverprovider Microsoft
driverversion 5.1.2600.0
hardwareinstance ACPI\PNP0501\1 This is how the device is named internally. For example USB devices include the vendor (VID) and product (PID) identities
name COM1 This is the name the port is known to your operating system as
________________________________________
LGE CDMA USB Modem #2 COM5
This port is available and can be selected.
Property Value Description
active True Your operating system shows this driver and port is correctly configured and a device attached
available True It was possible to open this port
class modem This is a modem connection
description LGE CDMA USB Modem #2
driverdate 2005-5-26
driverdescription LGE CDMA USB Modem
driverprovider LG Electronics Inc
driverversion 4.6.0.0
hardwareinstance USB\VID_1004&PID_6000_MODEMINTERFACE\6&DD8F44C&0&0000 This is how the device is named internally. For example USB devices include the vendor (VID) and product (PID) identities
name COM5 This is the name the port is known to your operating system as
________________________________________
(*) LGE CDMA USB Serial Port (COM6) COM6
This port is likely to be your phone. The port is available and can be selected.
Property Value Description
active True Your operating system shows this driver and port is correctly configured and a device attached
available True It was possible to open this port
class serial This is a serial connection
description LGE CDMA USB Serial Port (COM6)
driverdate 2005-5-26
driverdescription LGE CDMA USB Serial Port
driverprovider LG Electronics Inc.
driverversion 4.6.0.0
hardwareinstance USB\VID_1004&PID_6000_DIAGINTERFACE\6&DD8F44C&0&0000 This is how the device is named internally. For example USB devices include the vendor (VID) and product (PID) identities
name COM6 This is the name the port is known to your operating system as
________________________________________
LGE CDMA USB Serial Port (COM4) COM4
This port should not be selected. If you believe it is the correct port, you should cause it to become available such as by plugging in the cable or ensuring you have correct permissions. Press refresh once you have done so and it should be listed under available. Note that the name may change as it becomes available.
Property Value Description
active False This driver/port combination is not currently running
available False It was not possible to open this port
class serial This is a serial connection
description LGE CDMA USB Serial Port (COM4)
driverdate 2004-12-21
driverdescription LGE CDMA USB Serial Port
driverprovider LG Electronics Inc.
driverversion 4.5.0.0
hardwareinstance USB\VID_1004&PID_6000_DIAGINTERFACE\7&49CDA25&0&0000 This is how the device is named internally. For example USB devices include the vendor (VID) and product (PID) identities
name COM4 This is the name the port is known to your operating system as
________________________________________
Quoi faire ????
Merci de me répondre :)
Kebekois
J'ai le même problème que Breezer. J'ai installé le kit de telus pour le fil USB. Lorsque je parts BITPIM ca me dit qu'il voit un LG VX8100 connecté au COM 6.... VX8600 ou VX8100 ca doit etre pareil .... La n'est pas le problème....
Lorsque je vais dans le "browser" de bitpim (a gauche dans l'écran) je ne vois pas le "filesystem". J,ai Bitpim qui mei donne accès à PHONE et LOG.
Dans PHONE j'ai phonebook, media, calendar, memo, todo, sms, call history, playlist et t9 editor. je ne vois pas de filesystem.
Donc la je suis carrément perdu! Je suis allé voir l'explication en anglais et même si je ne suis pas bilingue j'ai compris comment installer et aller chercher les informations. Mais filesystem n'est pas la!
Voici les infos qui s'affiche lorsque je fais un GET info sur le cellulaire....
BitPim version: 1.0.6.20080726-Test
An unexpected exception has occurred.
Please see the help for details on what to do.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui.pyo", line 284, in run
File "gui.pyo", line 159, in __call__
File "gui.pyo", line 1884, in getdata
File "gui.pyo", line 1878, in getfundamentals
File "phones\com_lgvx4400.pyo", line 98, in getfundamentals
File "phones\com_lgvx8100.pyo", line 152, in getgroups
File "phones\p_lgvx8100.pyo", line 445, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 1433, in readfrombuffer
File "phones\p_lgvx8100.pyo", line 367, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 608, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 1568, in getnextbytes
IndexError: Trying to read 23 bytes starting at 184 which will go beyond end of 186 byte buffer
Variables by last 8 frames, innermost last
Frame getfundamentals in gui.pyo at line 1878
self = <WorkerThread(BitPim helper, started daemon)>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': '71f446264ce869bd7be089071be2908b2adafa9e'}
Frame getfundamentals in phones\com_lgvx4400.pyo at line 98
self = <phones.com_lgvx8100.Phone object at 0x02C051F0>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': '71f446264ce869bd7be089071be2908b2adafa9e'}
Frame getgroups in phones\com_lgvx8100.pyo at line 152
self = <phones.com_lgvx8100.Phone object at 0x02C051F0>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': '71f446264ce869bd7be089071be2908b2adafa9e'}
g = <phones.p_lgvx8100.pbgroups object at 0x03A84C30>
Frame readfrombuffer in phones\p_lgvx8100.pyo at line 445
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
autolog = True
logtitle = 'Groups read'
self = <phones.p_lgvx8100.pbgroups object at 0x03A84C30>
Frame readfrombuffer in prototypes.pyo at line 1433
x = <phones.p_lgvx8100.pbgroup object at 0x04C98A10>
self = <prototypes.LIST object at 0x03023550>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
Frame readfrombuffer in phones\p_lgvx8100.pyo at line 367
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
autolog = True
logtitle = '<read data>'
self = <phones.p_lgvx8100.pbgroup object at 0x04C98A10>
Frame readfrombuffer in prototypes.pyo at line 608
_value = ''
self = <prototypes.USTRING object at 0x04C98E30>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
flush = 0
Frame getnextbytes in prototypes.pyo at line 1568
self = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x02C056B0>
howmany = 23
Lorsque je regarde les infos affichés pour les ports de communication voici ce que j'ai pour les ports qu'il voit
BitPim port listing - Sat Aug 02 16:02:49 2008
Port de communication (COM1) COM1
This port is available and can be selected.
Property Value Description
active True Your operating system shows this driver and port is correctly configured and a device attached
available True It was possible to open this port
class serial This is a serial connection
description Port de communication (COM1)
driverdate 2001-7-1
driverdescription Port de communication
driverprovider Microsoft
driverversion 5.1.2600.0
hardwareinstance ACPI\PNP0501\1 This is how the device is named internally. For example USB devices include the vendor (VID) and product (PID) identities
name COM1 This is the name the port is known to your operating system as
________________________________________
LGE CDMA USB Modem #2 COM5
This port is available and can be selected.
Property Value Description
active True Your operating system shows this driver and port is correctly configured and a device attached
available True It was possible to open this port
class modem This is a modem connection
description LGE CDMA USB Modem #2
driverdate 2005-5-26
driverdescription LGE CDMA USB Modem
driverprovider LG Electronics Inc
driverversion 4.6.0.0
hardwareinstance USB\VID_1004&PID_6000_MODEMINTERFACE\6&DD8F44C&0&0000 This is how the device is named internally. For example USB devices include the vendor (VID) and product (PID) identities
name COM5 This is the name the port is known to your operating system as
________________________________________
(*) LGE CDMA USB Serial Port (COM6) COM6
This port is likely to be your phone. The port is available and can be selected.
Property Value Description
active True Your operating system shows this driver and port is correctly configured and a device attached
available True It was possible to open this port
class serial This is a serial connection
description LGE CDMA USB Serial Port (COM6)
driverdate 2005-5-26
driverdescription LGE CDMA USB Serial Port
driverprovider LG Electronics Inc.
driverversion 4.6.0.0
hardwareinstance USB\VID_1004&PID_6000_DIAGINTERFACE\6&DD8F44C&0&0000 This is how the device is named internally. For example USB devices include the vendor (VID) and product (PID) identities
name COM6 This is the name the port is known to your operating system as
________________________________________
LGE CDMA USB Serial Port (COM4) COM4
This port should not be selected. If you believe it is the correct port, you should cause it to become available such as by plugging in the cable or ensuring you have correct permissions. Press refresh once you have done so and it should be listed under available. Note that the name may change as it becomes available.
Property Value Description
active False This driver/port combination is not currently running
available False It was not possible to open this port
class serial This is a serial connection
description LGE CDMA USB Serial Port (COM4)
driverdate 2004-12-21
driverdescription LGE CDMA USB Serial Port
driverprovider LG Electronics Inc.
driverversion 4.5.0.0
hardwareinstance USB\VID_1004&PID_6000_DIAGINTERFACE\7&49CDA25&0&0000 This is how the device is named internally. For example USB devices include the vendor (VID) and product (PID) identities
name COM4 This is the name the port is known to your operating system as
________________________________________
Quoi faire ????
Merci de me répondre :)
Kebekois
j'ai une solution pour vous appelez le service lg et il vous aidera moi j'ai pas le pb que vous avez mais bonne chance !!!
sergi000
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vendredi 6 février 2009
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6 févr. 2009 à 22:55
6 févr. 2009 à 22:55
Bonjour, ,,,,,,J,ai le meme probleme,,,,que faire ,,,,est ce quel quun a la solution
Peut etre pourrez vous m'aider,,,,,sa serait apprécier,,,!
je connecte mon Cell a mon Laptop et il le détect et quand je démarre Bitpim il le voie aussi mais quand je clic sur Get data j'ai toujours la meme erreur ,,,,la voila,,, je ne sais trop quoi faire,,,,
SVP,,,,aider moi et merci a l'avance pour votre genitillesse.....!.................Sergoo...!
BitPim version: 1.0.6-official
An unexpected exception has occurred.
Please see the help for details on what to do.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui.pyo", line 284, in run
File "gui.pyo", line 159, in __call__
File "gui.pyo", line 1884, in getdata
File "gui.pyo", line 1878, in getfundamentals
File "phones\com_lgvx4400.pyo", line 98, in getfundamentals
File "phones\com_lgvx8100.pyo", line 152, in getgroups
File "phones\p_lgvx9800.pyo", line 706, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 1434, in readfrombuffer
File "phones\p_lgvx9800.pyo", line 628, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 608, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 1573, in getnextbytes
IndexError: Trying to read 23 bytes starting at 1058 which will go beyond end of 1080 byte buffer
Variables by last 8 frames, innermost last
Frame getfundamentals in gui.pyo at line 1878
self = <WorkerThread(BitPim helper, started daemon)>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': 'e44d3f5dc6601f7835e77c6d0d0c31b080bca700'}
Frame getfundamentals in phones\com_lgvx4400.pyo at line 98
self = <phones.com_lgvx9900.Phone object at 0x043D6090>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': 'e44d3f5dc6601f7835e77c6d0d0c31b080bca700'}
Frame getgroups in phones\com_lgvx8100.pyo at line 152
self = <phones.com_lgvx9900.Phone object at 0x043D6090>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': 'e44d3f5dc6601f7835e77c6d0d0c31b080bca700'}
g = <phones.p_lgvx9800.pbgroups object at 0x08ABF330>
Frame readfrombuffer in phones\p_lgvx9800.pyo at line 706
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
autolog = True
logtitle = 'Groups read'
self = <phones.p_lgvx9800.pbgroups object at 0x08ABF330>
Frame readfrombuffer in prototypes.pyo at line 1434
x = <phones.p_lgvx9800.pbgroup object at 0x08B00FD0>
self = <prototypes.LIST object at 0x08ACB9B0>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
Frame readfrombuffer in phones\p_lgvx9800.pyo at line 628
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
autolog = True
logtitle = '<read data>'
self = <phones.p_lgvx9800.pbgroup object at 0x08B00FD0>
Frame readfrombuffer in prototypes.pyo at line 608
_value = ''
self = <prototypes.USTRING object at 0x08B00FF0>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
flush = 0
Frame getnextbytes in prototypes.pyo at line 1573
self = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
howmany = 23
Peut etre pourrez vous m'aider,,,,,sa serait apprécier,,,!
je connecte mon Cell a mon Laptop et il le détect et quand je démarre Bitpim il le voie aussi mais quand je clic sur Get data j'ai toujours la meme erreur ,,,,la voila,,, je ne sais trop quoi faire,,,,
SVP,,,,aider moi et merci a l'avance pour votre genitillesse.....!.................Sergoo...!
BitPim version: 1.0.6-official
An unexpected exception has occurred.
Please see the help for details on what to do.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui.pyo", line 284, in run
File "gui.pyo", line 159, in __call__
File "gui.pyo", line 1884, in getdata
File "gui.pyo", line 1878, in getfundamentals
File "phones\com_lgvx4400.pyo", line 98, in getfundamentals
File "phones\com_lgvx8100.pyo", line 152, in getgroups
File "phones\p_lgvx9800.pyo", line 706, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 1434, in readfrombuffer
File "phones\p_lgvx9800.pyo", line 628, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 608, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 1573, in getnextbytes
IndexError: Trying to read 23 bytes starting at 1058 which will go beyond end of 1080 byte buffer
Variables by last 8 frames, innermost last
Frame getfundamentals in gui.pyo at line 1878
self = <WorkerThread(BitPim helper, started daemon)>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': 'e44d3f5dc6601f7835e77c6d0d0c31b080bca700'}
Frame getfundamentals in phones\com_lgvx4400.pyo at line 98
self = <phones.com_lgvx9900.Phone object at 0x043D6090>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': 'e44d3f5dc6601f7835e77c6d0d0c31b080bca700'}
Frame getgroups in phones\com_lgvx8100.pyo at line 152
self = <phones.com_lgvx9900.Phone object at 0x043D6090>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': 'e44d3f5dc6601f7835e77c6d0d0c31b080bca700'}
g = <phones.p_lgvx9800.pbgroups object at 0x08ABF330>
Frame readfrombuffer in phones\p_lgvx9800.pyo at line 706
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
autolog = True
logtitle = 'Groups read'
self = <phones.p_lgvx9800.pbgroups object at 0x08ABF330>
Frame readfrombuffer in prototypes.pyo at line 1434
x = <phones.p_lgvx9800.pbgroup object at 0x08B00FD0>
self = <prototypes.LIST object at 0x08ACB9B0>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
Frame readfrombuffer in phones\p_lgvx9800.pyo at line 628
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
autolog = True
logtitle = '<read data>'
self = <phones.p_lgvx9800.pbgroup object at 0x08B00FD0>
Frame readfrombuffer in prototypes.pyo at line 608
_value = ''
self = <prototypes.USTRING object at 0x08B00FF0>
buf = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
flush = 0
Frame getnextbytes in prototypes.pyo at line 1573
self = <prototypes.buffer object at 0x04640E70>
howmany = 23
